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togukawa810331
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battle results odd :D

Post by togukawa810331 »

Hi guys, i've just had a battle and the results just kind of puzzle me.
take a look

The following fleets faced Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:22:19 +0000 :

Attacker StarScream [1:66:6]
Weapons: 100 % Shields: 90 % Armor: 110 %
Type L. Cargo. L. Fighter H. Fighter Cruiser B.ship Bomber Destroyer. Battlecruiser
Number 19 34 1 6 77 57 138 19
Weapon 12 119 324 944 2.040 2.240 3.280 1.610
Shield 50 19 50 88 424 914 1.166 983
Armour 2.850 570 2.375 6.175 11.400 14.250 20.900 13.300

Defender tokugawa810331 [1:42:8]
Weapons: 120 % Shields: 110 % Armor: 120 %
Type H. Fighter Cruiser B.ship RIP Battlecruiser R. Launcher Light Laser. Heavy Laser Gauss Cannon Ion Cannon Plasma Cannon S. Shield Dome L. Shield Dome
Number 214 20 75 1 26 783 52 134 31 72 6 1 1
Weapon 340 1.012 2.046 396.000 1.478 211 183 627 2.856 333 6.864 0 0
Shield 51 130 453 115.500 1.003 38 66 242 365 891 607 3.828 17.820
Armour 2.625 6.825 12.600 1.575.000 14.700 525 210 1.365 6.300 1.575 21.000 4.200 21.000

The attacking fleet fires for 778.250 on the defender. The defender shields absord 183.377 points of damage.
The defensive fleet fires back for 1.093.455 against the attacker. The attacker shields absorb 266.414 points of damage.

Attacker StarScream [1:66:6]
Weapons: 100 % Shields: 90 % Armor: 110 %
Type B.ship Bomber Destroyer. Battlecruiser
Number 15 24 110 4
Weapon 1.860 2.320 3.840 1.456
Shield 378 1.229 924 840
Armour 11.400 14.250 20.900 13.300

Defender tokugawa810331 [1:42:8]
Weapons: 120 % Shields: 110 % Armor: 120 %
Type H. Fighter Cruiser B.ship RIP Battlecruiser R. Launcher Light Laser. Heavy Laser Gauss Cannon Ion Cannon Plasma Cannon S. Shield Dome L. Shield Dome
Number 158 15 68 1 25 555 15 90 30 67 6 1 1
Weapon 277 757 2.134 360.800 1.463 169 185 622 2.759 363 6.402 0 0
Shield 48 123 493 126.500 968 37 59 260 471 924 785 4.796 23.320
Armour 2.625 6.825 12.600 1.575.000 14.700 525 210 1.365 6.300 1.575 21.000 4.200 21.000

The attacking fleet fires for 511.804 on the defender. The defender shields absord 152.144 points of damage.
The defensive fleet fires back for 895.613 against the attacker. The attacker shields absorb 140.154 points of damage.

Attacker StarScream [1:66:6]
Weapons: 100 % Shields: 90 % Armor: 110 %
Type Destroyer.
Number 58
Weapon 4.120
Shield 1.187
Armour 20.900

Defender tokugawa810331 [1:42:8]
Weapons: 120 % Shields: 110 % Armor: 120 %
Type H. Fighter Cruiser B.ship RIP Battlecruiser R. Launcher Heavy Laser Gauss Cannon Ion Cannon Plasma Cannon S. Shield Dome L. Shield Dome
Number 133 11 62 1 24 450 71 30 60 6 1 1
Weapon 396 818 2.574 475.200 1.386 181 545 2.347 287 5.808 0 0
Shield 57 102 471 116.600 792 41 189 475 1.221 607 4.576 24.640
Armour 2.625 6.825 12.600 1.575.000 14.700 525 1.365 6.300 1.575 21.000 4.200 21.000

The attacking fleet fires for 238.960 on the defender. The defender shields absord 92.515 points of damage.
The defensive fleet fires back for 972.453 against the attacker. The attacker shields absorb 68.817 points of damage.

Attacker StarScream [1:66:6]
Weapons: 100 % Shields: 90 % Armor: 110 %
Destroyed!

Defender tokugawa810331 [1:42:8]
Weapons: 120 % Shields: 110 % Armor: 120 %
Type H. Fighter Cruiser B.ship Battlecruiser R. Launcher Heavy Laser Gauss Cannon Ion Cannon Plasma Cannon L. Shield Dome
Number 121 8 57 23 397 57 30 54 5 1
Weapon 281 792 2.222 1.679 202 550 2.783 366 6.600 0
Shield 51 114 497 783 36 262 414 1.309 647 22.440
Armour 2.625 6.825 12.600 14.700 525 1.365 6.300 1.575 21.000 21.000
The defender has won the battle !
The attacker has lost a total of 25.999.500 units.
The defender has lost a total of 12.145.000 units.
A debris field containing 13.874.100 units of Metal and 7.931.100 units of Crystal has formed in orbit around the planet.
The probability of creating a moon is : 20 %

Report created in 0.00506401062012 seconds

the thing that puzzles me is how can 58 destroyers with at total fire power of 238960 destroy a deathstar with armour 1575000 and shield 116600. not to mention all the other oddities in the battle. but this was the most baffling one.
i think we deffinitely need a battle simulator.
what then are all the researches for, it one can not protect one's ships by it. my technologies were far superior than his, and still.

Despot
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Re: battle results odd :D

Post by Despot »

I don't know that a battle simulator would help here, sadly. I sent a RIP on a resource raid overnight a few days back, and it was lost in battle. There was nowhere near enough damage fired by both sides in total to destroy it, and yet it was lost anyway. So there is obviously some kind of random critical hit thing in here somewhere, which would not be accurately predicted by any simulator.
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togukawa810331
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Re: battle results odd :D

Post by togukawa810331 »

well that's a shame, because you can not calculate properly the results of the battle.
i mean, yes, a certain degree of randomness should be present in a battle, but say up to 10-20%, but this is total chaotic, this is not random.
this should be dealt with.

as for other things, what happened to the alliance. why did you form another one. and how are we with that? if you got out of the guardians, can't we have an MPP now?

Despot
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Re: battle results odd :D

Post by Despot »

I'm going to try not to go too off-topic here. The background to the formation of our new alliance will be found under the Guardians thread in Union of Honour.
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Ubermensch
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Re: battle results odd :D

Post by Ubermensch »

the force was with me and starcream? :)

Malbordeus
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Re: battle results odd :D

Post by Malbordeus »

i think it has been mentioned that in any conflict, there is a percentage chance of loosing your most powerful ship - namely the deathstar. also there are chances of damage absorbed by shields being bounced back and other effects.

i'd dearly love to know the actual mechanics of this, it sounds mildly complex. :D

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